The Modern War Institute does not screen articles to fit a particular editorial agenda, nor endorse or advocate material that is published. IMCOM Directorate - Training, n Deputy/Director Fort Bragg, NC -If you are a Soldier and you are still carrying around the trash attitude of the "good ole' days", it is most likely time for you to go. No, they won't deploy in that position, but they can and do attend annual training and NTC rotations and can act as Platoon Leader. So this cadet would already be embedded with the staff or command team or shadowing the Platoon Leader, and would most likely have some, albeit limited prior service. Without these people, "How do you become "ELite"! I was at Camp Buckner in 1989 as my Bn (2/502d, 101st ABN) was slated to train yearlings. Upon completion of Basic and Advanced Individual Training at Fort Sill, Oklahoma he began his military career as a Field Artillery Surveyor. Born in Heidelberg, West Germany, of African American and Hispanic parents in a U.S. military family, she graduated from Oxon Hill High School in Maryland, where she ranked among the top-10 students in her class. I think the part of the reg people have over looked is "the senior regularly assigned Army Soldier will assume command". original name United States Military Academy at West Point insignia cadets sleeve rank and duty insignia. Staff Sergeant Taylor also served as a trombone player with the 323d Army Band "Fort Sam's Own" at Fort Sam Houston. Cadet you are not a cadet when in you ng or reserve unit. In my experience we rarely see a decent new officer come out of West Point and it's really sad. You have to look at national guard and the reserves. Due to the nature of promotions in the Guard at the time, he was still serving as the XO and was still a 1st LT. when I walked in wearing my Class As. Per the order, they are not entitled to a salute. When you focus on things that scare you to death, always remember that those are your fears and we're not concerned with achieving the next rank or a nice review. Almost, like her husband, an officer and a lady. Every. I do not cater to idiots and refuse to acknowledge someone that does not even respect the rank they expect their subordinates to respect. Command Sergeant Major Fraser previous positions and assignments include G1 Sergeant Major, 13th Expeditionary Sustainment Command, Fort Hood, Texas; First Sergeant, Bravo Company and Reception Transition Unit, Fort Benning, Georgia; Senior Human Resources Sergeant, 501st Sustainment Brigade, Camp Carroll, Korea; Senior Human Resources Sergeant, 1st ABCT, Fort Riley, Kansas; Battalion S1 NCOIC, 2-4 FAR, Fort Sill, Oklahoma; Senior Drill Sergeant, B 2-39 INF REGT, Fort Jackson, South Carolina; Brigade S3 Operations Sergeant and Customer Support Branch, 1st PERSCOM, Schwetzingen, Germany; Personnel Administrative Sergeant, 87th CSSB, Fort Stewart, Georgia; Assistant Brigade Personnel Sergeant, Personnel Administrative NCO and Training Room NCO, 1st Brigade, Fort Stewart, Georgia. They dont commission until CW2 but I guess they dont really count as Officers either. During my time in the regulars, I encountered a couple of West Point Grads who, in my opinion had amused contempt for enlisted personnel below the rank of E5. I never saluted another LT after that as an LT. Officers and NCO's must realize alike that, they way you treat your future Officers (NCO's case) and the way you treat your subordinates (Officers case) will dictate how the military can and will be run in the future. I am an honorably discharged Veteran of the active Army. He recently earned the Professional in Human Resources Certification through the Human Resources Certification Institute. Most recently, CSM Craven was the Command Sergeant Major for the 5th Security Force Assistance Brigade (SFAB) at Joint Base Lewis-McChord, Washington. Ask any SJA. Seems like the worst kind of leader to have. Subscribe to our email newsletter to receive exclusive news, updates, and concert schedules for the band. It should be. Regarding saluting courtesy in the cadet corps. If married his spouse is always addressed a "Lady so and so.". Thats what the reg says, but how does that work in practice? Requirements for a USAF Aviation Cadet at the time were two years of college and passing scores on a series of IQ and skills tests such as mathematics, logic, and spatial relations. OK, fine. In 2003 we never went slower than 55, usually 60 MPH and we never lost anyone. I had another LT in one of the other shops stop me almost with tears in his eyes that I had just salutes 2 other 1LTs on the way into the building and while laughing explained me to that LTs did not salute each other. In her free time, she enjoys spending time with her husband and two incredible sons. After graduating from high school, they both felt called to enlist, and became clerks. In July 2001, after graduation from high school, Perez entered the United States Military Academy at West Point. Command Sergeant Major Fraser military and civilian education include: Basic Leader Course, Advanced Leaders Course, Senior Leaders Course, US Army Drill Sergeant Academy, First Sergeant Course, United States Army Sergeants Major Academy, Garrison Pre-Command Course, Battalion Pre-Command Course, Command Sergeant Major Development Program, Master Resilience Training, HR Plans and Operations Course, Sexual Harassment and Sexual Assault Course, Battle Staff Course, Postal Supervisor, Postal Operations Course, Modern Army Combative Level I and II, Total Army Instructor Course, Equal Opportunity Leader Course, and Combat Lifesaver Course. The Army isnt some pay your dues ol boys club anymore. Through conversations, we get better LT's coming out of ROTC or NCO's newly converted to O grade.. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); The articles and other content which appear on the Modern War Institute website are unofficial expressions of opinion. A rescinding announcement is required if the temporary assumption of command is for an indefinite period. Somewhat surprised by this, and thinking back to my own experiences in CTLT, I asked why he felt that way. So yes, a West Point cadet DOES outrank a sergeant. In 2012, he was awarded a Master of Public Administration from John Jay College in New York, New York, with a concentration in human resources management, and is a member of the Adjutant General Corps Regimental Association. Your attitude will get you relegated to a Quonset hut in BFE. I respected his rank and expertise, but I detested him otherwise. Mr. Mitchell is a licensed Professional Engineer and a Level III Certified Acquisitions Professional. Rrrrr matey, were be that 3rd Lieutenant. In the 80s I was an instructor at the ANCOC Leadership School. The Cadet wr had wrote all of us NCOs that trained him, some. Outside of authorized developmental training events such as CTLT, no NCO is going to allow a cadet to swoop in and take charge of his platoon, squad, or section. One might argue that a cadet who is SMP, simultaneous membership program, would be regularly assigned. I was an Air Force Aviation Cadet during the late 1950's. Anyway. If you're not an Infantry Officer then to us you're an NPC because you lack skills and experience. Thanks for your disgustingly pointless article. -If you are a cadet and you don't see the value of picking the brain of an NCO (CPL to SGM), then you will most likely be doing your time and moving on. When I was an O-3, I regularly saluted SGM's first depending on who saw whom first and the nature of the encounter. She graduated from Conway High School in 1989. We are all us. I was one of Cohens blue to gold mustangs in the 90s. So there I was no shot, at my first unit on JBLM, WA as a 2LT and I thought that based on what I was taught that you salute all superior officers. NCO's look at big picture constantly, good officers are aware of this and cultivate this. . In those days once a month you went before the pay officer and received your pay in cash. I respect them all but I just wonder what makes them "Elite" as you say? The views expressed are those of the authors, and do not reflect the official position of the United States Military Academy, Department of the Army, or Department of Defense. Treat the Cadets with respect. Incorrect. It was advanced pay so to speak. And if for one second you think any Infantrymen will ever do something that violates our Constitutional form of government, you've made the worst assumption of your young life. Specifically, it allows them to try their hands at officership, and to get a feel for the kinds of officer/NCO relationships that are essential to the success of our Army. It goes both ways and without Officers the Army would surely still fall apart. I was now an active duty Captain with a right shoulder patch ( a big deal in those days ) and a couple of combat medals on my chest ( not bragging but including because of the story ). Its like my father (retired CW3) taught me; " I don't have to respect you but I HAVE TO RESPECT your rank.". What comes after is when the real learning begins. Staff Sergeant Paul Hadwiger, from Kirksville, Missouri, joined the West Point Band in July of 2018. . So glad I longer serve. No salute. Elite only in their mind. Naval Facilities Command Expeditionary Warfare Center, n Region Security Engineer Naples, Italy Eight cadet-athletes were selected to leadership positions and will assume their duties Aug. 10. If you've ever been in a doctor's appointment and a medical student was assigned to your doctor, that's about how cadets in CTLT and SMP function. So yes, a West Point cadet DOES outrank a sergeant. Will that is incorrect. But having learned this, it made me wonder when this would actually matter in any meaningful way. Future leader in some position in our AF. Then again for the same categories who were on rear detachment duties! After enlisting in the US Army in 1984 as a Field Artillery surveyor, Master Sergeant (Promotable) Jeffrey Morris found his way to the Cyber Branch via the Air Force Institute of Technology in Ohio, earning a PhD in Systems Engineering and a follow-on assignment as the Sergeant Major of the Army Cyber Institute at West Point. Warrant Officers are formally addressed as "Mister." CSM Craven has a Bachelor of Science in Criminal Justice from Colorado Technical University and a Master of Science in Management from Excelsior College. Of course, there is another reason to treat West Point and ROTC cadets with respect: they are not going to be cadets forever. You know this, you are assigned as whatever rank you have in the guard. I highly doubt any West Point graduate will magically "see the light" after reading my imput on this discussion. I spent 3 years as a MSG and never saluted a cadet. Practice ought to comport with policy. You can't lead if you don't know how to follow. Superior to a mere cunning, lazy enlisted man. I learned something that day. Command Sergeant Major Robert T. Craven 26th Command Sergeant Major United States Corps of Cadets, West Point CSM Robert T. Craven hails from Swords, Louisiana and enlisted in the U.S. Army in March 1995. CTLT happens in all kinds of units, both in the US and OCONUS. Hey brother. How dare enlisted swine preside over a command position? But only a complete cadidiot would get his or her cadet rank confused with an NCO's authority and influence. Allan intervened on Poe's behalf one last time and used his considerable influence . I did 24 years in the ARMY and have been led by West Pointers! The key to success in your career is understanding the strengths and weaknesses of your key players AKA your subordinate leaders and junior Soldiers. They assume command until relieved by proper authority except as provided in 2-8c. Thus, I suspect a warrant officer's wife is addressed a "wifady" (wife/lady.) Mark C. Quander Brigadier General , US Army 79th Commandant of Cadets The Commandant's Corner is a way to provide a direct channel of information about current cadet activities, leadership topics and other updates about the United States Military Academy's Corps of Cadets. "(3) Senior regularly assigned Army Soldier refers (in order of priority) to officers, WOs, cadets, NCOs, specialists, or privates present for duty unless they are ineligible under paragraphs 2-15 or 2-16." I felt honored to have him there. I would argue that the NCO/CO rivalries have started as a result of more modern times as compared to past wars and generations and honestly it should stop. We can feel confident we did our hob helping train a. Are we really saying an NCO could not do that? ok Cadet, go right ahead. From the senior officer perspective we were largely ignored. Command Sgt. Is the cadet attached or assigned a leadership position? In reserve and guard units, SMP cadets do hold assigned positions, but have no position in the chain of command. We always give you a chance before we let you sink your career all on your own. -Mentor these young cadets so that they can grow into the Officers that will leverage all the outstanding traits of the NCO Corps. Yet I would not want a Year 1 WP cadet in charge of a company. You earn everything in the Army. I agree totally with enlisted not saluting a cadet. A very interesting thread. They receive paygrade of ~E-5 however they hold a higher position. Not only do NCO's get shit on by their LT's but sometimes the LT is getting shit on by his Company Commander. I asked if he gave the cadets in his unit a hard time as part of their CTLT experience. We are officers in training and when we get a chanve at a leadership role with the guidance of the NCOs it will ensure our success as officers. America's Oldest U.S. Army Garrison & Home to the United States Military Academy Col. Anthony "Tony" J. Bianchi Colonel Anthony J. Bianchi is from Tampa, Florida and was commissioned in the Field. So let me get this straight a probably well connect cadet who memorize info given to them as well as staying nice and tidy, as yet to graduate or earn a degree yet some how thinks that they are officers. $9.99 + $6.85 shipping . single time. *This post originally appeard The Havok Journal * U.S. Army photo by: Mike Strasser/ USMA Public Affairs It's virtually guaranteed there are at least one or two SNCO in a given company qualified to take a short term command of the company. He also volunteers with local community organizations such as Higher Ground Men's Group, Men of St. Joseph, and the Most Holy Trinity Catholic Choir. You see there is a important reason that the strap be properly secured to the six foot ground rod driven into the ground. During cadet training we were paid at the rate of an E5. When I contracted under the SMP I was administratively promoted to the rank and pay grade of E-5 ( I had served two years previously in the Army Reserve as a junior enlisted 11B). ). The cadet does not outrank a senior NCO E7 or above. At the time the pipeline for commissioned officers in the Air Force was ROTC, OCS, Aviation Cadets, and the new USAF Academy whose first class graduated circa 1958. Oops! I was wondering if I would have to make mention of the fact that until they are COMMISSIONED Officers, they will remain nothing more than a glorified E-5 NCO pay scale while in USMA. the Armed Forces of the United States (Army, Navy, Air Force, Marine Corps, Coast Guard), the commissioned corps I was an enlisted man and my rank at the time of my discharge in the late Summer of 1989 was Sergeant E5. No one does this better than The Corps. Throughout his career as both an Airman and Civilian, he has served in numerous assignments at locations: n Chief, Public Works Fort Eustis, VA Share mutual respect and work together is the name of the game. No matter what route an O receives his commission by, he will regard his SNCOs and NCOs who trained him with the utmost honor and respect. The one group that actually gave us respect and tried to help and mentor us were the senior NCOs. Hands on training.. they eill not actually be cooking but learning from hose that do it daily.. Sergeant Major MaryKay Messenger is a native of Newburgh, New York, and a well-known soloist throughout the Hudson Valley region, performing classical, Broadway, jazz, and popular music. Is a cadet a regularly assigned Army Soldier? From the junior officer perspective we were seen as coffee and errand boys. Combined Security Transition Command Afghanistan (Ministry of Defense Advisor), n Engineering Director Kabul, Afghanistan You are not a leader because you graduated from an academy. To this day I credit a lot of the success I had when I went on active duty after I graduated to this great NCO. I practice it for all things because that was my mom golden rule from childhood to yesterday (dementia stole her from me). It would have sent enough juice thru the not yet graduate nor commissioned idiots heart to stop. Haha. The reason "cadets" are even mention in a gentlemans role is due to long ago medieval social customs. Knights lifted their helmet to recognize they friends from enemy. More than likely you are just privileged. U.S. ARMY INSTALLATION MANAGEMENT COMMAND, "We Are the Army's Home - She earned a Bachelor of Fine Arts in graphic design from the School of Visual Arts in New York City. She entered the military in March 1999 attending Basic Combat Training and Advanced Individual Training at Fort Jackson, South Carolina where she was awarded the MOS 75B Personnel Administration Specialist which later became 42A Human Resources Specialist. My first platoon leader was OCS, my other two were USMA. She has served as Operations NCOIC since 2017. Upon the successful completion of flight school cadets received their flight wings and were commissioned as second lieutenants and incured an additional four year service commitment. Correction The lugnut comment was in reference to comment 11 from Toga, not the author. Saluting a cadet completely invalidates the First Salute ceremony when they commission. Adept been officially assigned a position in the chain of command? Interestingly, one weekend I had a pass and visited a college friend at a nearby naval base where he was undergoing Navy Aviation Cadet training. Aviation Cadet training was 15 months. I mean, that certainly seemed to be the case at Airborne School back in the day. You sound like you have a good head on your shoulders and as such know who and where you are able to receive the BEST mentorship and hands on experience. A little background: I received my commission as a 2LT in May 1987 after spending two years in the SMP where I was enrolled as a senior ROTC Cadet (MSIII and MSIV) while serving simultaneously in a National Guard Unit. Youre right, Sergeant, a West Point cadet DOES outrank you. Maj. Joel Crawford, USAG West Point Command Sergeant Major by West Point Garrison and Community 2012 - 2014: Col. Dane D. Rideout, USAG West Point Commander by West Point Garrison and Community 1 2012 - 2014 . His approach to us was simple and he asked lots of questions about how to best kill tanks and he found that each man has their own method of how they like to do things and tactics they like or dislike and for what reasons. All Army personnel in uniform are required to salute when they meet and recognize persons entitled to the salute. Cadets saluted officers of all United States uniformed services. West Point welcomed Command Sargent Major Michael J. Coffey as the 21st U.S. Military Academy senior enlisted leader during an assumption of responsibility ceremony Monday, August 17, 2020. The Army has launched an investigation after the unmasking of a semi-anonymous Twitter account the command sergeant major of U.S. Military Academy, West Point, allegedly used to criticize elected officials and former President Donald Trump, an Army official confirmed to the Daily Caller. 354th Civil Engineering Squadron, n USAF Civil Engineering Officer Grand Forks AFB, ND I thought this is a very well written article. When contracted you take the officer version of the oath as well. Of course there is a certain type of officer who fails to get it. I too am an honorably discharged Army Vet from an Army family. It's often hard to find but its often the real truth on a subject especially if it's being spoon fed to you in briefs and media. Greetings from West Point and welcome to the Commandant's Corner. Cadets are never saluted. Mainly because I do belive the new generation of officers are a bunch of participation trophy recieving, never held accountable, privileged, idiots who can't handle that all that academy training and degree mean jack shit but to stroke their since of superiority over others. Scott welcomes story ideas and feedback on his articles, and can be reached at, ts summertime, and for many cadets in the Armys ROTC programs and at West Point, that means . They are legally considered E-5 equivalent, and aren't Branch qualified. Speed is your friend in a convoy, never drive slower than the rest of the civilian traffic, that way when a bad guy is trying to catch up to your convoy, he sticks out big time and the rear vehicle can easily engage him. (3) Senior regularly assigned Army Soldier refers (in order of priority) to officers, WOs, cadets, NCOs, specialists, or privates present for duty unless they are ineligible under paragraphs 2-15 or 2-16. Comments will be moderated before posting to ensure logical, professional, and courteous application to article content. Pilot and navigator cadets went to different flight schools. Sorry- from a legal perspective there is a lot not discussed. A the this leader our soldiers says to me that I did not ground the equipment right. Hooah!!! Cadets were sons of the upper class and were, due to social norms, afforded gentlemans status. Only W1's, lacking a commission, are excepted from Art. Very nice endorsements. Something I wish I knew 50 years ago. So as indicated by mil/regs a 17 year old snot nosed cadet is indeed an enlisted social/moral/intellectual/ and just plain all around great american hero. Oh please. Her accolades include a Grammy Award for "Best Engineered Album - Classical," engineering and mastering credits on multiple Grammy-nominated albums, an "Award of Excellence" from the Audio Engineering High Resolution Recording Competition, and a Downbeat Award for "Best Engineering for a Live Recording." CDT military IDs show geneva convention status 3. Sorry, I wrote that on the go from a mobile device, and can't edit it. NEW! The invested money for the cadet wasted. You probably dont salute WOs either because you think theyre beneath you as well. Great investment. Prior to serving in the Army, he was a high school percussion instructor and earned a Bachelor of Arts in music from Truman State University in Missouri. Yet, still burdened with the unsocial characteristic of the enlisted class. She entered the military in March 1999 attending Basic Combat Training and Advanced Individual Training at Fort Jackson, South Carolina where she was awarded the MOS 75B Personnel . that When in Charge, Be in Charge applies. As a CDT, I was generally treated pretty well at my unit, this could have been because I was Mustang Officer in training and a former NCO, and that my CO was part of the cadre at Western Illinois, so she made it a point to assign me to a vacant officer position, in this case kind of a huge assignment as the Maintenance PLT LDR at a MED Truck CO, whereas most units dont even know what to do with a CDT. Photo by Tarnish Pride I think not. It can be a very valuable and rewarding experience if done right and an unfortunate waste of time for the CDT and unit if its not. Cadets should know that they must earn respect. Death, disability, retirement, reassignment, or absence of the commander. the leadership essentially passed off their job.. but i ythink it is good these future officers learn from those entrusted to prepare the sustenance.. instead of those that havent actually been in thr kitchen for a couple years. And I declined two Bronze Stars because some senior Officer decided to dispense them for every Officer and Senior NCO in theater! I hope this sheds some light on things. Infantry Veterans/Retirees cluster together on various online formats and we're very concerned what direction things are going and it has nothing to do with President Trump, I've seen what a prelude to war is twice in my lifetime and I'm seeing another one but in a slower manner. Sometimes, XO is a way of calling the commander or a head of a department in the organization. As a mom of a cadet thank you! indicating superior social status. Some points I wanted to make sure I hit are: -No, you don't have to call them sir/ma'am or salute them, but you absolutely should show them the respect you would like to receive. Prior to his assignment at West Point, Sergeant Major Schlegel was assigned to the U.S. Army Medical Command Band at Fort Sam Houston, Texas, where he served as the personnel and administration branch chief and performed as principal trumpet in the Concert Band, Jazz Combo, and Rock Band. I am a cadet and am military police and drill with them as well. Always seek the minority view of any situation or story! As it turns out, West Point cadets *do* outrank Army noncommissioned officers (NCOs). Garrison Command Sergeant Major :: West Point U.S. Army Garrison West Point America's Oldest U.S. Army Garrison & Home to the United States Military Academy Command Sgt. Seriously get over yourselves West Point you produce officers like any other university and they are no better or worse than anyone else. I've seen this relationship play out in the Army. Scotts writing focuses largely on veterans issues, but he is also a big proponent of Constitutional rights and has a deep interest in politics. We only go to attention for officers. This author wrote an excellent piece. And taken that way. We promise not to send you more than one email a week! HUGE US Army Sergeants Major Academy USASMA Ft Bliss Military Challenge Coin 6" Sponsored . I believe my words only carried weight because I've already been in the Army for 10 years and the Senior cadre knew this (I didn't get in any trouble). of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, and the commissioned corps of the Public Health Service Life 101. Wonder if each Military Academy Of other branches has the same rule/regulation authority.??? A Gunny at 29Palms RTAMS and a Chief at NASA/AMES CA are among my most treasured mentors. Luckily, my trusty CWO officer witness this kid who likes to give orders about something he knows nothing about and showing his outstanding example of a true and morale officer. Most recently, CSM Craven was the Command Sergeant Major for the 5th Security Force Assistance Brigade (SFAB) at Joint Base Lewis-McChord, Washington. Dont take it as a sign of disrespect however. entitled to the salute.". The smart ones find a good NCO to mentor them. For some reason a lot of angry major S3 types fall into this category. They won't forget what you've shown them and they will resent you. And make it quick Lieutenant. Staff Sergeant Megan Cardone joined the West Point Band in March of 2011. I have heard the saying "Stop being an arrogant officer?" So there is definitely some need to define regularly assigned. Each job is as important as the rest. Appreciate your reply. So fairly similar arrangement as with cadets. Imagine that, good ol Top didnt read the entire regulation, only the part that suited his narrativeshocked. Maj. Roderick Taylor (USAG West Point Command Sergeant Major) October 14, 2016. Cadets salute one another and it is initiated according to cadet rank. I pray that you are only a LT yourself. 2-8. Example: In the U.S. Military a Warrant Officer (W-2W-5) are commissioned but are not gentlemen officers. Then, abruptly, he found a substitute and quit the Army to pursue an appointment to the U.S. Military Academy at West Point. Within the cadet corps there was a rank structure and cadets saluted other cadets with rank above theirs. I really liked the story and learned something as well having been a former SMP Cadet before I commissioned. They act only under the auspices of their supervising physician. Then we'd mow the guy down with an M4. The cadet would still have to be "Regularly Assigned". Hope this was brief enough for you or TL:DR? 133. Scotts writing focuses largely on veterans issues, but he is also a big proponent of Constitutional rights and has a deep interest in politics. Command Sergeant Major Michel R. Fraser was born in Wilmington, North Carolina and raised in Conway, South Carolina. I wondered how he, as a senior NCO in a highly specialized unit, felt about having cadets around. Some of the comments left in this thread have really let me down. Unprofessional. But usually, you're the one doing most of the work. Technically. I'm popping into the conversation late, but I completely agree (not that you can argue with the regs). Yes I have seen a misguided ROTC cadet DEMAND a salute from an E-9 once. (Still, there is no need to salute them. Something went wrong while submitting the form. Command Sergeant Major Fraser has deployed to Kosovo and Iraq. We need not be concerned about the proviso of either 2-15 or 2-16 as each applies to a Soldier under certain sanctions of discipline. "b. 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