Youre either one of them or youre not, and its such an economic driver.". And, of course we hit the malls. @ BeenThereDoneThat: I cant come up with anything that makes sense. According to the Branson Tri-Lake News in Kanakuknamed In lawsuit over jailed counselor, even though JoeWhite allegedly knew about the problems in 2003, he allowed Newman to havecontact with children according to a lawsuit petition. When groups play down their lack of protecting children and punishing those who harmed them, they are acknowledging their incapacity to care about protecting and defending the most vulnerable of society. ", The lawsuit adds, "During each of these activities Defendant Newman falsely represented to the young Plaintiff that these behaviors were okay or normal and were not 'sinful'. This modified form of ignorance is found in people who, if confronted with certain truths realize that they have to accept them and thereby acknowledge evil, and that scares them. That is soooooo Christ-like. Grownups shouldnt be getting naked with teenagers at camp. @ Lea: What on earth??? and He has allowed human persons to be able to use reason, as one of His gifts to us. They thrive on it. Dislike Share. Here this is up Sandy Willson of Memphis Second Presbyterian Church was notified in November 2011 that there was am alleged sexual predator on staff. Im curious. Just think about how this impacted his adolescence and who he is today. We continue to offer support to victims, including independent counseling services (which are not shared with Kanakuk), and desire to help them in their healing journey. No More Victims, whose organizers have not been made public, recently issued an open letter to Kanakuk and its owner, White. I cried. The letter-writers called Kanakuk's reporteduse of NDAs one of many "intimidation tactics" thecamp uses to stifle allegations of sexual assault and protect its reputation. If I had young children and theyd been to any Christian activities, I would be paranoid. I pray frequently for Petes victims healing, and that Pete remains in jail while here on earth. I mean, really, how dare they? No girls allowed. so, from this Scripture, would this not flow logically: Deep within his conscience, It is still hard for me to wrap my head around the idea that he is capable of the heinous acts that he committed, and would do that kind of damage to these boys. He was sentenced to prison for two life sentences, with an additional 30 years. Our Kanakuk Child Protection Plan, which contains over 340 identifiable and measurable protective elements, is integrated throughout the Kanakuk organization and has been shared with more than 600 youth-serving organizations across the country. They also tend to avoid thinking about or looking at troubling things (see no evil-hear no evil-speak no evil). I think Im just switching back and forth between the two. It is led by false teachers and false prophets (or profits.) Neither you nor the other people in the parking lot are in the act of worshipping. (Sarcasm off). For one thing they think differently about the world. Thanks for clarifying what you meant. The big megas dont seem to be so much neo-cals, but they are very friendly with them. I usually chose a wide variety of day camps and other activities to fill their summer with fun. Bryan Loritts is the brother-in-law of accused voyeur Rick Trotter. I found out a year or two ago that my best friend from my childhood was sexually abused by our pastor. Do you have a news link for that story? @ Lea: Evan Hoffpauir and Keith Dygert grew up in Branson, Missouri. The problem is not that no one is immune (although certainly none of us are perfect). I laughed so hard while watching the video of everyone standing. The more education, the better. Since 1926, Kanakuk has been the Christian summer camp for over 300,000 youth. "Your voice gave me a voice," Hoffpauir said he told journalist Nancy French after reports on Kanakuk by Frenchand her husband, David French, were first published last year by The Dispatch, a conservative-leaning news website. If moral conscience is dismissed as reliable; that strengthened the authority of leadership. They are not fundamentalists. :o), Similar story: It. They know what people want to see. Props to Todd Wilhelm for joining you when he was visiting the U.S. again from the Middle East. Some former members of my church filed suit against them a few years ago. Isnt that the truth. And if that tolerance is not a clue to how it can be that knowing someone is a predator or likely is a predator is trumped by a bond stronger than honor or common sense. So this isn't sexual. "His logic was like, it's OK to masturbate," Hoffpauir explained. He says he wont sue the church, because he would find it uncomfortable to explain to Jesus how he took the churchs money and gave Him back 10%. Never. I dont know how to make it happen. Hm. 18:6), In response, Kanakuk filed their own motion in opposition to the amended petition. The campus newspaper published the facts because they were afraid the prof would move on to another university and repeat the acts. And he spoke two nights, and I was his minor, little-kid helper. They are just normal people. Then I read the story. last and in between it was always what does the bible say about that and one then was expected to go by what the bible said, not by what one just thought for themselves. However, it is because of Pete, that I have developed a worldview that acknowledges the power of sin and that no one is immune to the influence of the flesh. . I know highly trained auditors (including in my family) and they arent licensed. And we wonder why the Done ranks are swelling? That church, and their pastor, Lee Roberson, would have personally pounded any counselor playing naked basketball with campers. Mohlers boys in appointed positions accused a Baptist college here as going liberal. Even with Dr. Kloudas lawsuit, the judge declared the seminary, a church, and threw it out. On June 9, 2010, Newman, then 34,pleaded guilty in Taney County court to eight charges of sexually abusing six childrenin connection with his role as a counselor and director at nearbyKanakuk. However, it is because of Pete, that I have developed a worldview that acknowledges the power of sin and that no one is immune to the influence of the flesh. Tough to sit through, but so important! At least Penn State, after their disgusting mess blew open, cleaned house!! Beyond lawsuits, those people need to be charged with criminal negligence and the institutions need to be fined heavily, at the very least, no excuses! Childrens lives are at stake here. Not sure how this is done without being in touch with ones own conscious and developing wisdom over time? YES! They have built it up a lot more since then I understand. Sorry about that, friend. It is a real distinction. Frankly, when diversity takes that much of a hit, you can get some cult stuff developing . I can use what I have and borrowed some clothes. :o). In 2018, Newman was found liable for $10 million in damages, but was later released from a garnishment.) I am trying to wrap my head around this Christian lawyer who claims to be a victim advocate. They honestly believe the leaders have the answers. What is that pastors name? There are tares out there. He'd take me out for ice cream, one-on-one. They are paid by the organization to do the investigation. Its a tough gig for lawyers trying to represent victims of clergy sexual abuse. And I found something interesting: Historically there have been two archetypes of Antichrist: The Fanatic Persecutor and The Slick Deceiver (easily symbolized by The Beast and The False Prophet). Society at large is way, way ahead of Christian organizations when it comes to protecting children and adults from predators in the work place. Makes me sick! On top of that, it costs money to sue, and Im not even talking about attorneys fees. Huh? When Dygert and Hoffpauir's families learned of the abuse, it caused them to be "damaged from the inside," in the words of Dygert's civil lawsuit papers. Many here have referred to it as the long con. But practically impossible. Maybe he was just thinking about it as he attended. Maybe they see skinny dipping as good, clean fun and not abuse. I have a feeling many of the Church have been exiled by the goatocracy of male headship pastors who are frightened by any real diversity within his realm. Do I file a freedom of information request on anything involving the name of the camp? Thats why they have to take over churches instead of planting new ones. Give me an atheist junkyard dog lawyer at that point. And justice on earth as it is in heaven is something God has called me to. IMO, I think most churches will be more receptive to a program billed as Christian to help educate them on how to prevent abuse. I will not recommend that camp, either for campers or potential counsellors. He currently resides in Branson, Missouri, with his wife, Debbie Jo. In the summer of 2003, the petition says, Newman lured the children with a yellow jeep into "spending time with him on Kanakuk property.". It also offers an all-ages family resort, along withday camps in eight states including Missouri, Illinois and Texas. How about your local church? Monday evening, Kanakuk marketing officials said they declined to comment on the new lawsuit against Newman, referring the News-Leader to a recently-published statement on sex abuse on the camp's website. Its one of the things that bothers me about GRACE that I have mentioned before. (Dee set up the GoFundMe account for them.) Thats a verse Joel Olsteen uses repeatedly! "Dorking around" was how he referred to this kind of activity,Dygert and Hoffpauir said. Our informant, having heard about the Newman situation, questioned Bryan Loritts about Peter Newmans position at the church. (Like that therapist in South Parks Children of the Corn/Lord of the Flies episode.). I escorted my parents to Branson once. Because what Im seeing is really, really wrong and its too consistent to be just mistakes. +++++++++++++++++++, During the week at a church office, there is so much pressure to look happy, cheerful, smiley, friendly where a zero-tolerance policy is concerned, my observation is that it is in the realm of relational tension. Join a small fellowship that preaches Jesus and Him crucified but has no desire to become the next mega/multi-site/church planting hub/trendy/etc. Knowing right from wrong and standing with innocent victims not protecting evil. Here is another example: http://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/09/01/widespread-abuse-uncovered-during-investigation-into-rhode-island-boarding-school.html. Fellowship Memphis wouldnt have touched him with a ten-foot pole, much less hired him on staff. I should add, thanks for the head-up. I dont think it works on this sort of problem that is ingrained in the institution. "It's OK to have that urge and feel it and act upon it, as long as you're not lusting. I can only conclude that they simple dont care whether anyone is abused in that church. Up your alley! I dont even think these powerful men ever think about the damage to the least of these.. I have a word for the politicians who have used the issue to their advantage, but I assure everyone it is not Christian and it is not printable. News Flash: These guys obviously do not believe this. ", He added that the children of Kanakuk managers had, and have, a major role in the community's social life: "They were popular. I say all of this, not to excuse those that turned a blind eye, but to provide some shading to what is easily drawn as a black and white picture several years later. I really dont think its doing the pedophile any favors by surrounding him with children, either. That shouldnt happen. I think churches should be much quicker to fire staff who make reckless negligent decisions, like fellowship did though. It does have christian themed shows (Jonah, as I mentioned above, and also Christmas stuff), but it has a lot of other acts too. He was in the temple courts, he was disrupting the precursors to worship, which included trading the evil Roman money for holy temple money so people could buy sacrificial animals. Crazy. Who are the expert witnesses who can ascertain the damage done to a groomed and molested 12 year old? Ever read about Stuebenville Ohio and how the city law enforcement and officials covered up gang rape by the High School football team? Because as you know, football scholarships are more important than a teenage girl. Thank you for praying for Former CLCers eye surgery and others needs. For more than a decade following these tragic events, Kanakuk has continued to work tirelessly to help ensure that this deeply deceptive and abusive behavior does not happen again. Lorittsallegedly responded "It was just some skinny dippingthing." I mean, this kind of thing is intentionally guarded against in secular settings with children. We are committed to our vision that todays young adults are the Christian leaders of tomorrow, and we will continue to advocate for their safety as they grow in friendships, faith, and confidence. It was a power play, which posed as getting rid of those %%%%% liberals. -Newman invited the plaintiff to a conference in Oklahoma where he tried to get the boy to engage in sodomy, was turned down, and finally convinced him to engage in a mutual masturbation session. Why isnt this the case where such things have been found to go on so long with so many in positions of leadership knowing? Craig Heidemann, attorney for the plaintiffs, dubbed John Doe XII and John Doe XIII in court filings, declined to comment on the lawsuits during a brief interviewMonday. Gradually, they connected with others who identify as survivors. He just started high school. Steve Taylor, I Manipulate. Also, I work in health care, and there is a concept of investigating things with a mindset of fixing rather than punitive. With knowledge of three separate events, the result should have been Newmans dismissal, documents state. There have been some problems with this in the business world as well. At the time that was taken seriously by the parents, mine included, and once one went past that second set of doors one was quiet. This is just one more idea of presence, that being sacramental presence. The corruption will become more entrenched and more protected as they close ranks against The Other.Burwell wrote: A small independent Fellowship was what messed me up in the mid-Seventies. I might assume that there is reliance on the Holy Spirit at least in the reading and studying of the sacred Scriptures, I think this is pretty basic. @ BeenThereDoneThat: The difference is there is licensing involved and CPAs risk losing their license to practice. It truly is a strange religion; bizarrely skewed and with virtually no connection to everyday sane and practical reality. And churches will continually attempt to make themselves look as positive as they can. . The letter demands Kanakuk admit thatnumerous allegations of sex abuse by people linked to the camp are true. Lea wrote: Bryan Loritts was not the voyeur. Its time the Church understands the truth of this and deals with such leaders AS THUGS. If you dont believe that read Thom Raner this time about 15 reasons pastors should not visit. And I repeat, the pastors and teachers are the keepers of the knowledge as it were which enables one to adhere to scripture as understood by some particular group. This is so true and could be why ministry was a chosen path as people/kids in churches and para church ministries are easier to fool and come in automatically trusting leaders. I dont get how some of these ministry leaders arent being criminally prosecuted sense they had enough information to know something was amiss. Her family has 1 foot in and 1 foot out of their long time church that has gone Neo Cal. God doesnt have a very good track record picking presidential candidates this year. Not a place that showed him perversion. Is this accurate? They can do their jobs well, even though theyre getting paid by the business. Anyone who works with children is supposed to be fully vetted yet these places use this contract or volunteer status as a way to avoid responsibility. Because I knew someone who sent their kids there this year. Though trusted by many, even parents, Newman was a serial sexual . Well, Forced Sex IS a classic Animal Forced Dominance Display. Its all pride. You ARE the Church. And about power for the leaders. It was more exhausting to drive them places and to hunt for activities in the first place, but I was cautious about overnight camps, especially very large ones. The Fanatic Persecutor is Anti in the sense of being in direct opposition to, and comes from the Outside. So, my kids have attended a Christian summer camp (not this one) for years. Not so in this world. Well known Christians send their kids there and parents like to stand around, pointing out the celebrities on Parents' Day. My daughters secular choir did that Acapella for a candlight Christmas concert in an old cathedral. "We graduated college, we spent about 10 years away from Branson, just being free and clear of everything this town has to offer. Alas, however; you are very unlikely to ever see Dolly herself there. They kept Sammy on staff up until his arrest. Filed April 8, the new lawsuit names only Newman. No wonder theres issues. ", Echoing similar suits filed in the past, Doe XIII's complaint asserts that beforeNewmans 2009 arrest and prosecution in Taney County, there were "at least 57 alleged victims of Newman including Plaintiff.". Their son, Cooper, is also on the board of directors, and daughter Jamie Jo serves as the organization . When she asked what was up, Hoffpauir remembersreplying, "Hang on a second.". They dont want to know the sordid long term details of what goes into the grooming process or the evil deeds. Just called camp kanuk the secretary stated it was 10 years ago and seemed to downplay the fact that it was 10 years ago. He would bring me along to sporting events. They're not getting the help and support they need. The real church following the real Jesus produces disciples who grow in the FRUIT of the spirit, not the mere knowledge of some religious system. Satan is powerful to produce every kind of vice, greed and scandal in those who are deceived. from the victims stories, I think what you are saying has credibility, yes. Pedophiles work in much the same manner with the exception they seem to have much more patience in preparing their victims and their enablers. I think youd like how tough he is on sexual predators and how he gets it. I honestly think we are talking about 2 different things. Not those who are actual victims from church cover up. These scandals testify to this reality. Curious, and from the tone of your comment, it doesnt sound like the same thing as a closed table where only members of that particular church are welcome to take communion. "Its big money. (my mom came back thinking that was as about as low class and crass as one could getunusual to hear such from her) It is all so much worse today, of course. ", Hoffpauir characterized this line of thinking as "just kind of a toxic purity culture. I have heard that Dolly Parton has a show/theater there, too. I think so. And I will say to them, be gone from Me I never knew you, workers of lawlessness. I think that the active acceptance of the priority of personal moral conscience may be the one thing that has kept Christian orthodoxy clear of cult thinking because it allows the Holy Spirit to BE the Holy Spirit in the life of the Christian person directly. I have no doubt that many of the children of this movement will rebel and go far away from it, and cause it to completely disintegrate in the future. (Im sure there were campers getting together in high school but thats sort of normal). . In the latest lawsuit, attorneys for John Doe XIIIargue that he began to be groomed by Newman for sexual abuse as early as 1999, when he was an underage camp attendee. Ingrained. I grew up just the other side of the Missouri state line over into Kansas, about two hours away from Branson; I always thought Branson was a huge deal, nationally and internationally-known. What else do they not believe? They specialize in educating churches about abuse. I want to thank the former attendee of this church for revealing the following information. In that sort of situation, the leaders are the keepers of the doctrine, the ones who have been to school and learned what the doctrines are and who can convey that information to those who may not know all that. Oh wow! The new suit seeks$5 million in damages from Newman personally and isthe secondlawsuit against Newman to be filed in Christian County courts in the past three months. But also no, the idea that one would make independent decisions apart from something specific in scripture, that was pretty much a no no. I will try. What I said has nothing to do with a building; we are not Jews at a temple in Jerusalem. I need to do car insurance again and wont be able to drive after this week if I dont make that payment. He probably had dreams of Mohlers power, though. time to stop trusting in these clowns who preach that they KNOW who is saved or who is a real Christian. The missionaries were victims of the culling of diversity within the SBC, which apparently was seen as intolerable to the new leadership. I saw the Dixie stampede, loved it, but Im a horse person. And to gather Intelligence to use on their next targets. But I dont know that this movement appeals to as many people as they seem to think it will. So this is hitting close to home. @ Lydia: Even some small towns. This judge gets it right! His mother resisted the idea, but "eventually," Dygert said,shechecked with "one of my friends' parents who had known Pete longer. Did he really believe that because its what hed been told by Joe White, or did he know more? . I really dont get it. (I have been but not since I was a kid, and we went for silver dollar city-which is an amusement park). As a chid I was awed by the idea that God might actually be there. It could be literally years before a judgment comes inif ever. Billy is set for school supplies. I cant quote Criswell word for word, but he said that the man who pastors a church is the ruler of the church. ", Hoffpauir said he does not know who funded the counseling by Staples. Also,there seems to be an established Christian promotional/marketing thing that that pushes all these groups and ideas, so if one had a contrary message, not sure how they would get it heard. The problems, I just got madder about this situation as I went for a walk!! I could rant more, but I am just singing to choir with you all.. retaining a person on staff who is a child predator and actually has been arrested for that is bad PR! Putting a building on a pedestal does not fall in that category. I have no idea how Mirele understood my original comment to have anything to do with anything else. So the new rule concerned her for several reasons one of which she did not know the new volunteer youth leaders (seminary students) well at all. I call it chosen ignorance. Or alternately, the man is always whats important and the one who should be protected. but how does God doesnt meet with them there when He has said, Its just not worth the risk. Two years after the Newman case blew up in the media, Newman was sent to prison and Kanakuk finally introduced a "Child Protection Plan"the first time in the camp's long history that procedure and policy surrounding sexual assault was put into writing. Dygert helped out around the camp and eventually served as a Kanakuk counselor himself, for four years. Ive been thinking about the camps I went to as a teenager. http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/women-abused-by-priest-brendan-smyth-took-own-lives-says-cleric-darcy-35011545.html. Most of their employees are members, leaders, sometimes pastors at local churches. Regardless of the theology behind that idea and the opposition to that idea. I went to California with him. Both programs stressed that we would be in legal trouble if we had information and did not report it to the authorities. He works to protect churches. Judge Orr retired to his chambers to decide Newman's fate for a little over 40 minutes, when he came back and delivered the verdicts it seemed that both side were a little stunned. -Newman had one-on-one Bible studies with boys in his hot tub. he recalled. https://wonderingeagle.wordpress.com/2016/08/31/sandy-willson-of-second-presbyterian-memphis-is-allegedly-notified-in-november-2011-that-a-sexual-predator-was-on-staff-at-downtown-presbyterian-church/#more-7415. @ Lydia: every single person has sinned and all sin is equal, maybe not in your eyes but in gods we are all his children. I am sorry for being so cynical! Boys club. @ Lydia: I honestly dont know. http://www.nakedpastor.com/2015/07/dentists-lions-and-equal-opportunity/. Life is a minefield. The idea being that if you have confessed your sins and repented and asked God for forgiveness then you are forgiven by God. so, what i was getting at is my observation for why church leaders accommodate questionable behavior in their staff and themselves (which, of course, in this context is criminal behavior to people who breath oxygenated air), instead of being tough. And while we are at it, Wesleys quadrilateral includes experience along with scripture, tradition and reason as to the variables determining what people believe, but Hookers three legged stool does not include experience but only scripture, tradition and reason. I just am not sure it trickles down to the members. Today's story calls into question the leadership at Fellowship Memphis in regards totheir decision to hire apedophile awaiting trial. But people go because its pretty or to shop or because its close. A camp staffer referred questionsto a general "communications" inbox. September 2009: Newman is arrested & thenreleased on$50,000 bond along with a court order not to be around children but he continues working at the church. Ive sat through youth ministry volunteer training with MinistrySafe, and they get it. What can we be as believers but strong advocates against this heinous evil? It was a long time ago. CEO and Board Chair, and his wife Debbie-Jo, Vice President, who inherited their roles from Joe's parents in the 1970s. It does help for those going through the grieving process to visit from time to time and sit quietly. But fixing the heart? As far as our informant knows, the church attendees werenot informed of Peter Newman'sserious issues. Hoffpauir and Dygert said they are now choosing to make their stories widely public through the news and social media in order to help other survivors and to seek accountability. It is my hope that Kanakuk be successfully sued for their lack of diligence with the lives of children. Its taken us time to process it and Im sure it will take us much more time to work through it. We are talking about something that cannot just be repented of but something that is the persons very identity- who they are. If they are doing stupid things and then make excuses for not making wise decisions, they are of the false church, regardless of who or what they loudly proclaim. @ Lea: The Calvinistas look to me like militant political pseudo-conservative evangelicals. So did the Apostle Paul. I suppose that is the effect that Mohlers Calvinism (TULIP) has on his thinking (Total Depravity) ??? I do have a large rattlesnake hide hanging on a wall and my husband has a mounted bobcat, but we were not hunting them. What I said has to do with an attitude of worship if one is in the act of, in fact, worshipping. No amount of investigating will change the heart problem that is at the root of this! Hell is swelling, too, with demons who were called pastor on earth. About Press Copyright Contact us Creators Advertise Developers Terms Privacy Policy & Safety How YouTube works Test new features Press Copyright Contact us Creators . You're going to hear some stuff, and I just need prayers. Ill tell you what. or something at some prayer meeting declaring him to be Gods choice, or words to that effect. Did CJ Mahaney in calling any discussion on molestations, gossip and preaching the doctrine of sin leveling? If you continue to use this site we will assume that you are happy with it. Im afraid I do not give a pass for any adult who knew about this activity and blew it off. Sheesh, adults are hard pressed. Just a slightly different perspective: he has a special place in gods heart, always. . Far too many choose the second way. They are really parsing words instead warning the parents and students? And including a former President. Companies sent people to training to show insurance companies they took it seriously. 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